This week I am lucky enough to interview one of the first people I ever traded and chatted craft beer with, @enigmacraftbeer (aka Michael). Michael and I have been trading for about 1.5 years and I've gotten to watch his home brewing skills blow up! Michael brews some of the best looking hazy's I've seen done by a home brewer (or legit brewery alike). Listen in to this episode to learn about some of Michael's brewing methods and history and his take on craft beer. Follow him and his amazing home brew adventures @enigmacraftbeer
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Reed Daw: So there you go.
Reed Daw: Alright. Cool. Thanks. Welcome, everyone, to beer and a half. Today I have Michael or otherwise known as Enigma craft beer.
Reed Daw: On Instagram and I'll plug that one in. So you can go check him out. I'm pretty excited about this episode because I was going deep back in our conversations
Reed Daw: And we started chatting over a year ago, I think in
Reed Daw: I knew was Michael is one of my first trade traders to kind of get me hooked on some really good East Coast Hayes and other things. And we'll dive into all that later. But yeah. Thanks for joining us, Michael.
Engima Craft Beer: Grammy man.
Engima Craft Beer: Going on, I think actually it was after my first treehouse and Trillium trip that we treated
Reed Daw: Yeah yeah
Reed Daw: Yeah, you hit me with like a lot of ticks to I remember like all the beers that I always saw everyone posting about like some other half. Some treehouse Trillium I was like one box like it was like Christmas morning for me.
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, I'm in a good spot right now with Colin, it kind of sucks. But I got to reach our so many different breweries that I can hit
Reed Daw: Yeah, makes it pretty convenient.
Reed Daw: Definitely. Um, so I know a kind of fun thing that you always do on your Instagram is always which would be or should I drink like and I maybe other people have done that but I'm going to say you started it because you're
Reed Daw: The first person I saw doing it. So we'll crown is the originator for that and
Reed Daw: Yeah, that's all good. I mean everyone's still excited to see your drinking. Um, yeah. I saw you doing before we were getting started here. So maybe tell us what were the two beers, you were going through and which one did you end up choosing
Engima Craft Beer: So fighting started well I'll show you the crawlers right now they're only crowd during
Engima Craft Beer: An Iraqi like really close to where I'm staying. It's only like a five minute drive
Engima Craft Beer: Um, I want to say their official opening date was right before coven like January I mean I'd have to ask, Stephen Allen and then the owners.
Engima Craft Beer: How long ago was because I went and stopped by for equipment at a low, but they've just been putting out some crazy daisies, I mean, it's so consistent for just being a crawler
Engima Craft Beer: But the one that one was the no cows. It's the that's pronouncing it right. It's an all galaxy double IPA, it's their first time doing all galaxy. So it's going to be interesting to see how their yeast and processes.
Engima Craft Beer: Express the galaxy hot
Engima Craft Beer: And love. Yeah.
Reed Daw: Correct this now. Yeah, like a that just nothing special. But, well, I guess it's special asset live oh capitalized and just a classic Bavarian
Engima Craft Beer: I've ever had.
Reed Daw: That's true. I have my buddy is from Austin they drink this, like, it's the, the, like the nectar of the gods, and now I freaking love it. Oh, nice. Let's see.
Engima Craft Beer: These crawlers on thing is I don't like the way they pour
The
Reed Daw: Is it because the lid is like further away from the lip.
Engima Craft Beer: Or I think so, yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: The only thing that I am not to like
Engima Craft Beer: Bring down on a brewery or anything. I love these guys and I love what they're doing but with the crawlers, I noticed that you sent on too long. They turn a little brown quickly.
Engima Craft Beer: Tastes great. But like you want that I candy for Instagram, you know,
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, this one.
Engima Craft Beer: Looks like it here though so feelings.
Engima Craft Beer: Brown, the beer like itself turns a little brown but I mean you're filling it with CO. The Purge that can and then you're feeling the beer and then they've I think they cap on the white foam to minimize oxidation, but it's so hard to
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Reed Daw: So some oxidation gets in there and that's what color. Yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, as a home brewer, that's one thing that I mean, depending on who you talk to, with their systems, it's one thing that a lot of home brewers struggle struggle with.
Reed Daw: Yeah, so definitely want to dive into all that, too. And when I first started looking into brain disease. Excuse me. What I would always see on forums was people getting like a weird reddish brown color like even like dark color and would that just
Reed Daw: Be from oxidation or what better
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, reddish would be they're using too much caramel malts I would believe um but it when I've noticed from oxidation and turns like a grayish brown. Okay. And then all kind of have like a really sweet scent, and then like cardboard taste to it.
Engima Craft Beer: And that's like to the extreme but pans.
Reed Daw: Oh, cool. Let's, let's go down the home brewing path. And since that's kind of what we started on. So for those of you that don't know, and you should start following him soon so you can see
Reed Daw: Michael comes out with what to me looks like some of the better Hayes's I've seen that I get even in can so I'm been encouraging him to start trying to bottle and stuff. I know that's a big venture, but
Reed Daw: Yeah, they look awesome. So, you know, how did you get into home brewing. Where did that whole venture start
Engima Craft Beer: So believe it or not getting into craft beer for me was a too juicy by two roads and like a house party and one of my roommates friends brought it. And that kind of like open the door. I was like, wow, that's not just bush shirt Bud Light and
Engima Craft Beer: during college so I'm or started trying more because there's like a local shop right next to me where I was living in Oneonta before
Engima Craft Beer: That had a bunch of crazy stuff. So I'll go and buy like A COUPLE CANS here and there and try them and then like the Saigon nutrition is a science based and like my career.
Engima Craft Beer: That I chose. It's really science based. So I've always loved science. And it's not just an art or like there's so many aspects to homebrew like I could tell you about and go through so many different paths. The whole time, like we could probably talk about it for days.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, that's what I love about it so like the science base me the nerd came out and it's like, what if you do this, what if you do that.
Engima Craft Beer: Just Miss possibilities. And that's kind of where like the Enigma name came from.
Engima Craft Beer: It's like
Engima Craft Beer: Like a mysterious person or object and like brewing is kind of like that. There's so many different ways you can go down.
Reed Daw: Yeah. And what was the was the first beer. You ever tried brewing.
Engima Craft Beer: The first beer I did was a kit and
Engima Craft Beer: I'm trying to think if it was like a West Coast IPA pretty much anything in the beginning was bottling
Oxidized
Engima Craft Beer: Edge.
Reed Daw: Nodes. And so what's like the, what's the main reason about or what's like the main step that maybe wasn't like perfect you're spot on that would cause oxidation
Engima Craft Beer: Um, so when you're bottling you're using this little one thing and you push it down in the liquid flows through the stupid.
Engima Craft Beer: Thing called racking came that I had. I didn't know that if you pumped it a few times and then lifted up, it would keep flowing. I thought you had to keep pumping it
Engima Craft Beer: Was like agitating the fear and it was a headache.
Engima Craft Beer: But then one day I finally was like, I'm just buying a keg, and since then. I mean, I've had a few mistakes here and there, but
Engima Craft Beer: That's like
Engima Craft Beer: A headache much
Reed Daw: Much easier for us, us
And so
Reed Daw: Yeah, that makes sense. And so now what are like the main or have you gone through pretty much all the styles from homebrew here do you stick to IPAs.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm mostly been doing IPAs. I did one attempt at a style to roast it but
Engima Craft Beer: Talk to more talus. If you've heard of them.
Engima Craft Beer: And I'm really close with the guys up our seasonal brew works in Saratoga, the
Engima Craft Beer: Us been getting some feedback. So once it starts getting a little cooler. I'm going to jump back in and take some of those tips that those guys gave me to do for Stout's
Reed Daw: This. That's awesome. Yeah, I think I've only had a couple of their IPAs. I haven't tried their stats, but they do pretty good stats.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm more Thomas
Are
Engima Craft Beer: Both yeah
Engima Craft Beer: Both are really good and mortality does like crazy stuff or there's and i mean you know if you follow them on Instagram their line is like out the door every
Reed Daw: Yeah, they're still there, still on the checklist for that reason, like I haven't dove into that world because they just they have so much hype. I mean, I think, for good reason, people seem to really love their beers.
Reed Daw: Yeah yeah
Reed Daw: I like they always do. What is it the hydra is is those like the fruit. It's ours that they do.
Engima Craft Beer: You know,
Reed Daw: There's three
Engima Craft Beer: Different routes, they do.
Reed Daw: Yeah, so I know people go get pretty hyped for those
Reed Daw: And so lately I've been doing just a lot of hazy is what's like the last one that you've brewed or what's like what's the next thing you're trying to brew. What, what are you sticking with
Engima Craft Beer: A lot of excuse me, the lower abs tend to be thin flavor. So I topped the crap out of it.
Engima Craft Beer: Gave it a good body and mouth feel.
Engima Craft Beer: Um, and like I enjoyed it a lot. I got feedback from friends and always enjoy getting that I would love to get more than just my close friends home and be able to can, but especially for this next one tomorrow I'm doing W dry, hot double mosaic Daydream calling from other and
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Reed Daw: I mean, myself and a lot of other people love other half IPAs. I think I have a triple triple cheesecake. Oh, cream IPA right now.
Reed Daw: I'm pretty excited the crack open so when they, when they say when they say oh cream. What does that mean, actually they're IPAs.
Engima Craft Beer: They just put oats and lactose and that
Engima Craft Beer: Means it's like
Engima Craft Beer: I don't know if it is for them. I would guess it's like a selling point
Engima Craft Beer: Like oh, what's in Korean like
Engima Craft Beer: Sounds better than just like milk.
Toast or someone saying lactose.
Reed Daw: Yeah, I appreciate him. It's a good good marketing tactic. I appreciate it. You know, real yeah
Engima Craft Beer: They're all good.
Engima Craft Beer: Though so
Reed Daw: Yeah. And then what about, I know I read this, like the description once, but I'm blanking. What is their high density hop charge that was HGH seed.
Engima Craft Beer: So they increase the Whirlpool and the dry hops is which I've learned and read
Engima Craft Beer: The so they're just
Engima Craft Beer: Um, I don't know if you follow like monkish or Trillium but I'm a lot of them are pushing hop pounds per barrel and that's why their beers are also good. So I would guess that those density pop charges and why they're so pricey is that they're like eight plus pounds per barrel.
Engima Craft Beer: On of hops. Yeah.
Reed Daw: And I mean, another great you know high density hop charge and other great marketing, you know, call to action that just pulls me into wanna buy and try, they can
Reed Daw: All right, I'm not mad. That sounds awesome.
Yeah.
Reed Daw: So when you when you're bringing your own do you go after a lot of clone recipes or do you come up with your own or how do you decide what like the next recipe is you're going to do.
Engima Craft Beer: I usually write my own
Engima Craft Beer: I'll be sitting at work, not gonna lie I try and think about stuff on like on a break or something. Yeah, um,
Engima Craft Beer: So lately I posted that I got those five pounds of Mosaic and Amarillo, and I found this website that had really good prices for them so praying. I'm sure they're going to be fine. That, um, I should probably put process or not do that. I looked at the wrong.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah.
Reed Daw: Not good for you on. There you go.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm praying that they're good hops, which I don't think they would be there from like the Yakima Valley area which is known for their hops.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah. And I was like, what's a really good mosaic beer that I like and not gonna lie. I was kind of hoping that it would just be a dream. And when I don't really like putting lactose in my beers, the Instagram post I did the Daydream one. So I was like, I'm just going to do it.
Engima Craft Beer: For a lot in
Engima Craft Beer: But it is going to be in there so like I just kind of went with that, like, I love other half that all their single IPA or single hop IPAs, like the citrus.
Engima Craft Beer: Just do it. So,
Reed Daw: Yeah, they do. I mean, you also you have to appease the Instagram gods, you know, whatever they vote on that's, you know, you got to go with that. And so
Reed Daw: We appreciate it. I think
Reed Daw: So yeah, I appreciate it.
Reed Daw: How big of batches, are you doing right now.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm in the for manner. I'm usually putting like five and a half to six. It depends how much I feel like boiling off and then also the starting gravity. So I'm hitting my marks.
Yeah.
Reed Daw: And you have just like a single keg that you feel to them bottle or do you have multiple they hold. Yes.
Reed Daw: Yeah, that's
Engima Craft Beer: Good to people.
Reed Daw: And so do a lot of your friends and people, you know, they're coming to you for beard, you reach out for them or or
Reed Daw: Or the beer guy.
Engima Craft Beer: I kind of reach out
Engima Craft Beer: Especially with the coven thing. I usually a like got this new badge. Want to try and they're like, Yeah, I'll stop by, or like my meetup and stuff like that.
Reed Daw: And I guess now like any reason to get out for a little bit, or do something like that. It makes it's always worth it to
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, I actually found like a couple other home brewers hopefully one of these days. Like, we can do a collab or
Engima Craft Beer: Just grew together and learn more. Yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Because everyone's different. Yeah.
Reed Daw: Just hang out.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah.
Reed Daw: Human Interaction human interaction.
Reed Daw: And have you done any collab. I guess pre covert or maybe during any clubs, with some of the local breweries around there.
Engima Craft Beer: Unfortunately, no. I'm trying to just, I don't know what, maybe I'm not asking correctly or
Engima Craft Beer: Showing my Instagram credit because I do post a lot of craft beers, other than my which I'm trying to obviously get away from but
Engima Craft Beer: You know, like Bruce so much, especially with the stuff that I have on hand, but I'm
Engima Craft Beer: I'm hoping to hopefully either start clapping with some local, local home brewers and then Avi has I get bigger. It's just like right now. I feel weird like going in and bringing my beer and being like, hey, you want to try this and like, give me feedback if I hadn't been there before.
Engima Craft Beer: Or
Engima Craft Beer: I don't frequent often like right now.
Engima Craft Beer: There are two breweries that I do bring my latest patches frequently. And it's that are teasing them on the owner pairs of great guys names Kurt
Engima Craft Beer: And we'll do like the shares kind of thing like talk about beers and decipher them and him in a couple people try mine. And then there's another one that's called the unified and it's pretty small. So a lot of people like I'm sure you never heard of it. Beer works.
Engima Craft Beer: It's pretty small. I'm good. And I mean all their beers are solid and their drafts are always consistent
Engima Craft Beer: Right. The owners are great. So I bring my barriers up there and grab the poor and then we just talked for like a half hour.
Engima Craft Beer: Gotta talk, you know,
Reed Daw: Yeah, I mean, that's
Engima Craft Beer: In your house.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah.
Reed Daw: Yeah, I guess that's how it works. Um,
Reed Daw: That's, that's cool, though. I mean,
Reed Daw: I guess like what following certain guys back like what Horace and there's like Brewhouse brewing. I mean, those
Reed Daw: Guys started doing that's like all those guys do. Now it's just clubs with everybody and
Reed Daw: Now they've gone up so many. I guess it's there, just a matter of getting in and start starting to do it. But yeah, I hope you have to Bruce, the most guys would be pretty cool.
Reed Daw: I've seen you. I've seen you in a couple breweries on your Instagram, though, like with some of the brewers and maybe that was just checking them out or just kind of touring and then chatting as well. They I think I've seen it a couple
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, it's a mixture like someone, a lot of them are like the craft beer world like everybody I've ever met and craft beer is so friendly and so nice brewers are up most of the brewers are all gray.
Reed Daw: That I've
Engima Craft Beer: Had like a few or I'm like wow ok not going there anymore.
Engima Craft Beer: But for the most part, like some there so hospital and they just want to help and like
Engima Craft Beer: Talk beer. Like that's why they do it.
Reed Daw: Yeah, I mean that that's
Engima Craft Beer: You know, like just
Reed Daw: The reason you you agreed to do this call and like the whole
Reed Daw: Thing of me of me wanting to do this is like everyone on the beer communities. So nice like that and and the people who aren't nice tend to get kind of weeded out
Reed Daw: Just like put Push like further and further out. Yeah, it's like the nicest community. I've ever joined. I think it's why it's why
Reed Daw: I guess we're all in it. This to drink.
Reed Daw: Beer and
Reed Daw: And that's about it early and have a good time.
Engima Craft Beer: Well, bring any
Engima Craft Beer: Other together and starting conversations, you know,
Engima Craft Beer: Let's talk more. Once they add a few
Reed Daw: Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's
Reed Daw: It's funny at shares, you know, this is like
Reed Daw: If you can, like, mentally, take note of the beginning of a share versus middle vs. And we're like everyone's standing up and yelling and you know tell tell a story, is it
Reed Daw: Yeah, it's like, it's pretty funny.
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, I know this is kind of towards me. But as I know of your share the other day and I look pretty crazy. A lot of good stuff being consumed that day.
Reed Daw: Yeah, yeah, I've
Reed Daw: Been really lucky to get in like find some really good people here at one of a few of which are unlike some really good memberships. And we've been
Reed Daw: sticking to each other during this time.
Reed Daw: Because we know that like
Reed Daw: We all been kind of
Reed Daw: We all work from home.
Engima Craft Beer: All day, every day, so it's
Reed Daw: Makes it a little nicer.
Engima Craft Beer: And yeah, we
Reed Daw: Get to share some good stuff. I've gotten a lot of big tix for from those guys, that's for sure.
Engima Craft Beer: What spawn.
Reed Daw: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I love it. Um, what uh, what do you think of like all the fruit. It's our stuff. Are you into those those types of views.
Engima Craft Beer: Um,
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, I get it, I can see the people that it draws in, not gonna lie, I'm going to start playing with them and trying to make some my own because if I one day I'm lucky to open like a nano brewery or something. I'm going to obviously have to have them because people want them.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things that I can take it or leave it. I do enjoy a can, but I usually don't drink a whole can myself. So that's like actually
Engima Craft Beer: I have a high dressed on my can or in my fridge right now, February when I went there because it's just something I don't drink. It's something I care so I've just been sitting on it.
But
Engima Craft Beer: I mean, that's my standpoint, I like to share them. I can't drink. I mean, I have twice. Maybe, but I don't like drinking whole cans of those. Yeah.
I think
Reed Daw: I think I'm kind of lucky in that my girlfriend loves them. So like all get like my four ounce for and you know. She'll. She'll she loves drinking him. So it's like the perfect amount for
Reed Daw: For me in her it'll have, like, so it works out perfectly for our cans. Yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Around six is good enough.
Reed Daw: And they're definitely good like it to me. It's like a Jew max or something. It's just like a juice nectar and it's delicious. Yeah, for sure. I love it.
Reed Daw: And what's
Reed Daw: I don't know if you've looked too much into it but but what's like the process of doing like that I've heard they have like a separate keg with full of fruit and then they run the beer through
Reed Daw: That keg, or how do you know how it works.
There's
Engima Craft Beer: A lot of places do it differently. So if we want to bring up the people who I drove out to and got screwed on that last release before they were
Reed Daw: Let's say their name because
Engima Craft Beer: Through it, they
Engima Craft Beer: Would I think. I mean, it's for how many years, they probably done it, but
Engima Craft Beer: So I've heard
Engima Craft Beer: Um, text that Darren can Throw a name out right there. She's really close with Drucker, who makes a lot of brains and those have inverted sours. What they do is they literally make a beer, a sour base beer that is like
Engima Craft Beer: I have heard that on tap. They do have like a keg with the fruit and then pours in and does the same thing. So it's like fresher off the keg.
Reed Daw: That's it, really interesting. I'd love to try this one. What does this space. Tastes like is it just tastes like liquor you think
Engima Craft Beer: Or what
Engima Craft Beer: Does this say
Reed Daw: Ahead and
Engima Craft Beer: Science are amaze
Reed Daw: I mean I feel like just put that release out once a year, people would like
Reed Daw: Yeah, that could that could be something that I'm going to send a message to get
Reed Daw: Jester King about this will see you soon. Get over there.
Engima Craft Beer: Sour down there.
Reed Daw: That's through which they just released a lambic in a box.
Reed Daw: Which got some really big hype here. So it's like
Reed Daw: Their spawn, which is like they're
Reed Daw: Spontaneous yeah like culture that they've dubbed
Reed Daw: They did their spawn. Still, which is just, yeah. These still non sparkling version of it and they put it in a box like a one and a half liter.
Reed Daw: So like why yeah like a franzia but a spawn. How would
Engima Craft Beer: That Ross.
Reed Daw: So, okay, that's even the the
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, I've seen so many I'm
Engima Craft Beer: Stout this coven time go crazy money.
Reed Daw: Oh my gosh. Right. Yeah. Crazy.
Engima Craft Beer: Like gum ME THE ST Napier sanctuary.
Engima Craft Beer: He was posting that he got those tickets. I was like, damn, like, Yeah, you just paid that much money to buy the ticket when hopefully
Reed Daw: The meeting starts are expensive.
Engima Craft Beer: Let's just
Reed Daw: Face. I know like their Grand Cru in that. I mean, it's badass. I came in that like dark red velvet black boxes like
Reed Daw: You know, I can't blame people because I was looking at it like I wish I had that now.
Engima Craft Beer: Being a home brewer. Um, it kind of makes you wonder, like, how much it actually costs for those because like I know just cost.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, like that's what makes me think like other half and monkish and all of them, since they're charging so much they're throwing so much Hobson into
Engima Craft Beer: Like, I get it. You're spending that year, two years, where you could have been selling it to give it that age and the extra stuff. So that's why it's charging more, but um so
Engima Craft Beer: I think little ridiculous. I mean, it is a business and you got to make money. And obviously we're all still buying and so
Engima Craft Beer: But
Engima Craft Beer: The system.
Reed Daw: Me Down a keg over here have a hazy and how they said
Engima Craft Beer: It's not much
Reed Daw: They really. I was curious how much
Engima Craft Beer: Dollar order pint.
Reed Daw: Wow.
Reed Daw: That's crazy.
Reed Daw: I would not have thought that would have guessed anymore.
Engima Craft Beer: It's not my
Reed Daw: Thing, um,
Engima Craft Beer: Up for it.
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Reed Daw: I know, yeah, it was look at the time. And I'm like, man, I'm already
Reed Daw: Okay, cool. So this is just some simple silly questions. But what's your favorite hop.
Engima Craft Beer: That's tough. I want to say I have just one, but if I had to choose on like island things cetera probably
Reed Daw: Yeah, I mean, it kills
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, it's
Reed Daw: It's so good.
Reed Daw: Because have you made a sitter only IPA.
Engima Craft Beer: Now I'm going to hopefully soon as
Reed Daw: That sounds awesome.
Reed Daw: What's your
Reed Daw: Go to shelf beer like let's say like grocery store shelf beer.
Engima Craft Beer: Oh, gosh.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm if I'm drinking cheap highlife that it's easy drinker gets that nice corn tastes. But if I'm looking for, like, a higher like quality single comment is known in my grocery stores around here. Have you heard of single cut. I think you
Reed Daw: Are someone sent me a couple cans of them.
Engima Craft Beer: Might have yeah
Engima Craft Beer: They have a couple of that are usually in there and I mean can beat it for being in the grocery store.
Reed Daw: Yeah, I like some okay
Reed Daw: So this next one is what's the last beer drink, but we
Reed Daw: Know that. So what's the beer you drink before this one.
Engima Craft Beer: Um, yesterday I tuneless my, I think it's called from violence.
Engima Craft Beer: Was Simcoe galaxy and mosaic.
Engima Craft Beer: Lot of people don't actually I do on tap down. If you do, but I had a lot of peach notes and it reminds me of tree house Hayes is just to
Reed Daw: Get it like was a lot
Reed Daw: What's the first craft beer. You ever tried
Engima Craft Beer: Or that to juicy by tomorrow. That's right.
Reed Daw: And what's the, what's the, what's your favorite. I guess you said hi life doesn't say, What's your favorite trash can be here but high life is I would that be considered a trash can be
Engima Craft Beer: Probably the most people
Engima Craft Beer: I guess so.
Reed Daw: I guess most beer nerds.
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Reed Daw: What's your favorite food to pair with an IPA.
Engima Craft Beer: Burger.
Reed Daw: I sorry that's my
Reed Daw: favorite beer style.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm single, IPAs. I'd go, I don't get why you got to have a triple IPA. I mean, I still drink calm but I just don't see the hype and
Reed Daw: Yeah.
You know,
Reed Daw: I'm glad you said that because I used to seek them out like only doubles or triples, and
Reed Daw: The more I've been drinking them. Now, the more I'm looking at my fridge, like, where's a single IPA, and I really appreciate them. So it's, yeah, I agree with you there. What's your least favorite beer style.
Engima Craft Beer: Um, that's tough. I like everything I at least try everything mostly
Engima Craft Beer: I'm
Engima Craft Beer: Somewhat fire.
Engima Craft Beer: Really don't know if I had to choose, probably
Engima Craft Beer: Triple IPA. I guess I just don't have
Reed Daw: A favorite single IPA.
Reed Daw: Least favorite
Reed Daw: Trip like okay I like that it's a
Reed Daw: Little curveball.
Reed Daw: Do you have a number one beer tick right now like a bottle or can you just want to try
Engima Craft Beer: And save that the no cows. I'm early was looking to try that. My buddy actually was holding on to it for me because he got to the release and I saw down like five minutes. Okay.
Engima Craft Beer: This one on drinking tonight.
Reed Daw: That's, that's awesome. Is it living up to the hype.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, solid. I mean,
Engima Craft Beer: It's a local spot so everyone's rating and crazy high but everything you're playing out is really good. It's just, it's not like that beer, where you take a sudden you're like, holy shit strength and again now.
Reed Daw: But it's a solid beer.
Yeah.
Reed Daw: What's your favorite brewery.
Engima Craft Beer: Home.
Reed Daw: Oh,
Phone.
Engima Craft Beer: My
Reed Daw: phone. My phone is
Reed Daw: One of the, one of the best
Engima Craft Beer: I just their dang character, they get in it, and then it's just unique like nobody else makes a beer like foam does if you do use at me and tell
Engima Craft Beer: Right now Burlington is like super strict with this code crap like they really got some so I'm like, yes.
Reed Daw: Yeah yeah
Engima Craft Beer: Oh man treehouses close on that because they just, you know, they kill it.
Reed Daw: You know, again, rapid fire not
Reed Daw: So rapid but
Reed Daw: I had a big box of foam coming my way
Reed Daw: And the Vermont.
Reed Daw: Post Office stopped it completely.
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, I remember seeing that so
Reed Daw: Yeah, no, we're so it was one. It was one person that was sending it the bulk Nate and I needed and get his mind. Yeah.
Reed Daw: We're like THING THAT'S WILD. Yeah.
Reed Daw: Wow, what will find other ways, though.
Reed Daw: But uh yeah um
Reed Daw: What, uh, what's like the next, what's a brewery that's at the top of your
Engima Craft Beer: Visit list, who not to go on. Um,
Engima Craft Beer: I really want to go down to Connecticut and hit new park and Fox farm.
Engima Craft Beer: Been here and seeing a lot of good stuff about them. The
Reed Daw: Same
Reed Daw: Have you, have you gotten have anything from them yet or
Engima Craft Beer: No, no, actually, I
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, and I actually want to go for their IPA is like both of them.
Reed Daw: So, it
Engima Craft Beer: Sounds like a good one.
Reed Daw: Is Barley Wine life.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm. To be honest, I wouldn't say I've had many
Engima Craft Beer: Many like
Engima Craft Beer: Here there. But, I mean, it's great beer style. This
Reed Daw: Have you brood one
Engima Craft Beer: That takes
Engima Craft Beer: Takes a lot of grain, the boiling time
Reed Daw: That's what I learned. Like, like you're with it. You're with it for a while.
Engima Craft Beer: I don't want to say there's a lot of hops in it to say might be thinking of a different style that I watched a video up in the UK for a special dinner. So yeah, it's just
Engima Craft Beer: A lot of grain, a lot of boiling time
Reed Daw: It's a mer mer solder. And it's called
Reed Daw: Yeah yeah
Reed Daw: What do you thinks the best stout adjunct
Engima Craft Beer: Hmm, I would say vanilla coconut probably what I'm going to do my next. Oh.
Reed Daw: That sounds awesome.
Reed Daw: I think we know the answer to this, but do you prefer Krispies or Hayes's
Engima Craft Beer: runs on the day
Engima Craft Beer: I'm on a ball game. I would like a good Chris beam. I can't get them, but I'm
Engima Craft Beer: hazy guy.
Reed Daw: Yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Yeah, it's hard to get perfect
Reed Daw: It's a good answer. And what about what do you choose Olympics or Stout's
Engima Craft Beer: Hmm.
Engima Craft Beer: Probably again on the day, it's a hot summer day lambic but I love the new pastry sounds like they're so flavorful. It's crazy how that make them like more talus downturn just knots
Reed Daw: Yeah, I know. Like a desert in the glass.
Reed Daw: Yeah, if you had a shock on one beer. I know what would it be
Engima Craft Beer: And I think that I actually have on hand or just any beer.
Reed Daw: Just any beer.
Engima Craft Beer: I guess we'll go back to the highlights days a
Engima Craft Beer: Be crazy.
Reed Daw: Or what did they do that like champagne bottle that
Reed Daw: Is against rockin
Reed Daw: Yeah, yeah, that's your last question. So do you know the term what it means to ice somebody
Reed Daw: Like it's, I don't know if it's a region thing but like Smirnoff icing someone. Have you heard that.
Engima Craft Beer: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Engima Craft Beer: Was in a bar because they have a card hard and somebody like did it to somebody. I'm like, why the hoses guy like this. He was jack. I'm like, why is beefy guy sent here on one knee.
Engima Craft Beer: I'm like what
Engima Craft Beer: And I think your story, a few times where
Reed Daw: She does.
Reed Daw: Yeah, I see me. Okay, so what if you had is one person right now who dies.
Engima Craft Beer: Mmm hmm.
Engima Craft Beer: I think john area barks.
Engima Craft Beer: Good to see that.
Reed Daw: All I'll be sure to tag him on that one and see if he'll accept the challenge.
Engima Craft Beer: I hope so.
Reed Daw: So that was the end of my questions of it. Michael. Thanks so much for taking the time to chat with me for a while and tell everyone about home brewing what you're up to.
Reed Daw: He's also as Instagram handles Enigma craft beer. I'll link it in the in the Instagram story and on the on the website too but uh yeah go follow them check out what he's doing. And I think thanks Michael so much
Engima Craft Beer: Thank you so much, man. I was asked, and didn't even feel like it was that long.
Reed Daw: All right, yeah. Awesome. And we'll take it easy. Thank you.
Engima Craft Beer: Have gone